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Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve
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Attached is a spreadsheet I created for a restaurant client comparing two plans and projected kWh savings at 20% and 30%.Currently, they are on the rate plan "3B". If they were to remain on this plan…Continue

Tags: savings, vs, actual, plans, rate

Started this discussion. Last reply by Bud Poll Aug 13, 2012.

Efficiency First Membership Pricing
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Does anyone else find the $300 membership fee a bit rich for a business consisting of only one self-employed owner?At $100 I might consider it, but at $300 they've pretty much prevented me from…Continue

Tags: overpriced, membership, first, efficiency

Started this discussion. Last reply by Rod Fox Jul 26, 2012.

Utility Meter Accuracy
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Well I have to admit that I'm stumped with an energy audit I've been working on for the past two months. Perhaps someone can point me in the right direction...My client contacted me concerned that…Continue

Tags: accuracy, meter, utility

Started this discussion. Last reply by Rod Fox Jul 26, 2012.

 

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Rod Fox replied to Kari Riedel's discussion Any feedback on Advanced Energy Panels (window insulation panels)?
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Rod Fox replied to Kari Riedel's discussion Any feedback on Advanced Energy Panels (window insulation panels)?
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Bud Poll replied to Rod Fox's discussion Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve
"Rod, I have to go along with Sean on this, Another way to look at this is to consider a small company with lower use and paying a higher rate.  They expand and triple their use and they get a lower rate as a result of their higher use.  If…"
Aug 13, 2012
Sean Lintow Sr replied to Rod Fox's discussion Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve
"I hate to say this, but I don't think you get it. I don't think you fully understand how business runs, economy of scale, what it does take for the utility to provide power, nor what a base charge covers or is for. Look when you…"
Aug 11, 2012
Rod Fox replied to Rod Fox's discussion Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve
"Well Sean, I have in fact talked to the utility's commercial accounts manager about this and when I presented this data to him his response was something to the effect of "well those decisions are way above my pay scale" (those…"
Aug 11, 2012
Sean Lintow Sr replied to Rod Fox's discussion Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve
"Ahh now I see the other tab & you should consider siting down with an account rep & have them walk you through the system so you understand how it works. Trust me they are not diabolical & most are glad to help. They might even…"
Aug 10, 2012
Rod Fox replied to Rod Fox's discussion Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve
"Well actually, no they do not save 30% on that one portion (rate per kWh). They actually lose about 35%. Which is why I posted this topic as I interpret this as diabolical. For example: The peak rates per kWh for plan 3B are $0.0844232 (June -…"
Aug 9, 2012
Sean Lintow Sr replied to Rod Fox's discussion Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve
"There are more factors that come into play on commercial bills like demand charges, baseline, etc... They do save 30% on that one portion of the bill when they do reduce, but there are other factors that come into play."
Aug 9, 2012
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Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve

Attached is a spreadsheet I created for a restaurant client comparing two plans and projected kWh savings at 20% and 30%.Currently, they are on the rate plan "3B". If they were to remain on this plan and reduce their kWh usage by 30%, they would actually only save 16% on their utility bills.But PNM (the local utility here in Albuquerque, NM) automatically changes the rate plan for their customers after the customer shows a three month timeframe of changed activity.If we assume PNM changes the…See More
Aug 9, 2012
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Utility company's diabolical rate plans don't save the consumer equivalent to what they conserve

Attached is a spreadsheet I created for a restaurant client comparing two plans and projected kWh savings at 20% and 30%.Currently, they are on the rate plan "3B". If they were to remain on this plan and reduce their kWh usage by 30%, they would actually only save 16% on their utility bills.But PNM (the local utility here in Albuquerque, NM) automatically changes the rate plan for their customers after the customer shows a three month timeframe of changed activity.If we assume PNM changes the…See More
Aug 9, 2012
Rod Fox replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion How does your utility use smart meter technology?
"B with about 5% of my clients in the greater Albuquerque/Santa Fe areas. The remaining are A. PNM is the utility. Most residences are fixed rates but commercial properties tend to fluctuate between three rate plans depending on their demand and…"
Aug 9, 2012
Rod Fox replied to randy tolowski's discussion Spreadshhets for manual J, etc from ACCA website FREE
"Hey those are fantastic! I haven't yet run numbers through them, but at first glance, they look very useful. Thanks for the post!"
Jul 26, 2012
Rod Fox replied to Rod Fox's discussion Efficiency First Membership Pricing
"To be fair, after resending my original email, Coby from EF called almost immediately and left a message followed by an email with his take on the worth of the membership price. Apparently my first email fell between the cracks, no malice intended.…"
Jul 26, 2012
Tom Delconte replied to Rod Fox's discussion Efficiency First Membership Pricing
"Incredibly excessive! So excessive, in fact, that it would cover 4 of my home electricity bills, perhaps 6 in the near future. Let's keep our our annual and monthly costs down so we can enjoy a movie out once in a while!"
Jul 26, 2012
Rod Fox replied to Rod Fox's discussion Efficiency First Membership Pricing
"Here here for Home Energy Pros!"
Jul 26, 2012
randy tolowski replied to Rod Fox's discussion Efficiency First Membership Pricing
"I do. We have to think efficiency first when we spend our hard earned dollars, and it.s not efficient to pay $300 a year for  a club membership. Don't let the dot org fool you this is a business whose main concern is profit, not…"
Jul 26, 2012

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