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Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
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Last month my meter/delivery charges were MORE than the cost of fuel. I expect this in in the summer, but now it's happening in winter also.…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Dennis Heidner Jan 19.

Energy Costs: Progressive or Regressive?

Here in Oklahoma local utilities DISCOURAGE conservation. As you use more electricity/gas/water you pay LESS for each unit. A "volume discount" if you will. Hefty monthly meter/connection charges are…Continue

Started Jan 4

How does Cycles Per Hour affect real world AFUE?
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Some claim that modern furnaces have minimized off cycle losses to the point they no longer matter. Oversizing has become a comfort issue rather than an efficiency issue. Is this really true? What…Continue

Tags: duct, cycles, CPH

Started this discussion. Last reply by Bradford E. White Dec 30, 2014.

Dual Fuel Systems, at what point do they make sense?
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Heat Pump with furnace backup. These make no sense in our area with local NG rates, but they do make sense for LP. Our NG is cheap, but the meter fee is expensive ($30/mo). Makes more sense to either…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Eric Kjelshus Dec 4, 2014.

 

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Bob Blanchette commented on Tom White's video
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Engaging study at UCLA tracks energy consumption

"Oge did a similar study back in 2011 before promoting variable peak pricing for residential customers."
Jan 22
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Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?

Last month my meter/delivery charges were MORE than the cost of fuel. I expect this in in the summer, but now it's happening in winter also.See More
Jan 21
Bob Blanchette commented on Christopher Morin's blog post How Low Should I Operate my Heat Pump?
"Peak energy use is a summer issue. TOU rates apply. Located in OKC. That's why I mentioned local rates structures vary A LOT."
Jan 21
Bob Blanchette commented on Melissa Ulbricht's blog post New $1.6 Million Program Helps Electric-Heated Buildings in Chicago Save Energy, Money
"Who gets the $1.6M bill? The taxpayers or the customers of the utility?"
Jan 20
Dennis Heidner replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"I routinely measured the flue temps of my old furnace multiple times over the years before it was replaced.  It was a Payne Plus 90,  the flue temps never were above 100F,  they were down in the 80-90's... and it was perhaps 92%…"
Jan 19
Bob Blanchette replied to Elvin Frost's discussion Solar objection and response sharing
"That hail was much larger than 1". 3-4" is more like it. You see the size if the hole. Oddly enough it did not go through the sheet rock on the ceiling."
Jan 19
Bob Blanchette replied to George Kopf's discussion Utility death spiral = higher taxes? Perhaps...
"The biggest issue is rental houses don't get fixed. When they do landlords are looking at 1st costs instead of utility bills. Baseboard heat is mostly non-existant in Oklahoma, it's electric air handlers with straight AC.…"
Jan 19
Bob Blanchette replied to Elvin Frost's discussion Solar objection and response sharing
"Are there any panels that can withstand some hail damage? That's would would kill the panels in Oklahoma. Hail normally isn't large enough to go through the OSB, but 1/4" hail is common. "
Jan 19
Bob Blanchette replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"Below 80F? Maybe on some of the newer 95%+ condensing furnaces. Older 90% models are still 100f-120f. None can be over 140f because that's the temp the flue gasses condense at. Agreed, corrosion is there worst enemy. Let the condenser drain…"
Jan 19
Dennis Heidner replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"The big gas lines are pretty high pressure and serve a lot of different industries.  The cost of moving the gas through the high pressure lines is actually pretty low... and it is generally a different company than your local gas company.…"
Jan 18
Dennis Heidner replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"The point of a condensing furnace is to EXTRACT as much heat as you can from the fuel.   The flue temperatures at the inducer stays below about 80F.  The failure modes for the condensing furnaces, are part wear out of the motors (fan and…"
Jan 18
Bob Blanchette replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"You would think there would be more than 33 cents difference in the delivery fee since the NG only travels about 100 miles to get from NW Oklahoma (most of the drilling is done there) to OKC."
Jan 18
Dennis Heidner replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"Our delivery fee in the Seattle area is effectively $4.06/Dth,  the basic service charge is $10.29,  the fuel cost is $5.90/Dth.   Utilities generally sign longer term contracts for the natural gas supplies,  the supply line…"
Jan 18
Bob Blanchette replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"Condensing furnaces are somewhat "forced" to be at least 90%, otherwise the flue gasses will melt the inducer and PVC venting. If flue gasses do get that hot, I guess it's "end of life" for the furnace..."
Jan 18
Dennis Heidner replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"SInce you have other gas appliances in the house,  multiple CO detectors is a good idea and a must.  Gas fired furnaces pretty much keep their original efficiency (it can vary a little) through most of their lives.  So long as they…"
Jan 18
Hal Skinner replied to Bob Blanchette's discussion Have Gas Meter fees/deliver charges got out of hand?
"We are in the central valley of CA. Just moved to a different, older house and got the first urility bills. City Water 20.00 Garbage 22.00 Sewer 50.00 Gas, PGE 14.00 Electric 120.00 Dont use t he old gas floor furnace. Dont trust it to be safe or…"
Jan 18

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Replaced my A/C this weekend, results of downsizing by 1/3.

Recently my 13 yr old Carrier A/C devolved a leak and I chose to replace the system rather than track down the leak and repair the coil. I had been reading about doing manual J calculations and how contractors are scared to death to undersize. I had been talking to co-workers about this and it's an uphill battle getting them to think different than 1 ton per 500sq ft. So I decided to take confidence in correct sizing and "put my money where my mouth is" and install a 2 ton sized…

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Posted on September 2, 2012 at 4:39pm — 2 Comments

Just Signed up for OG&E Smarthours Program, A new way to manage energy use

How SmartHours Plus works: It costs more for electricity during peak periods of high customer demand.

Other factors, like weather conditions and the time of year, also drive electrical prices higher. SmartHours Plus,

sometimes known as Variable Peak Pricing (VPP), allows you to save when costs are lower, or off peak. Peak hours

are 2 to 7 p.m. weekdays, and prices during those hours vary based on demand (see chart). You’ll get advance

notice of tomorrow’s peak price the…

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Posted on January 17, 2012 at 1:30pm

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At 1:46pm on January 17, 2012, Diane Chojnowski said…

Hi Bob,

Welcome to Home Energy Pros! Feel free to join the conversation in the Forum and Groups. And share your energy efficiency photos, videos and upcoming events. If you're blogging about home performance, this is the place for you!

Thanks!
Diane, HEP Moderator

At 7:55am on January 14, 2012, Diane Chojnowski said…

Hi Bob,

 

Welcome to Home Energy Pros! Feel free to join the conversation in the Forum and Groups. And share your energy efficiency photos, videos and upcoming events. If you're blogging about home performance, this is the place for you!

Don't forget to add your location on our Member Map. We'd be happy to see Sweden represented!


Thanks!
Diane, HEP Moderator

 
 
 

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