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Affordable, effective and easy to install HRV?
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Hi everyone,I'm looking for a whole house ventilation solution that I can recommend to clients. I have no experience installing these, so I rely on your experience to give some good…Continue
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Cost of training and certification
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I'm curious about why training and certification in our industry is so expensive. If everyone was getting grants, I could see how $1600 for a few days of training might be a doable proposition or if…Continue
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Eric Kjelshus replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"last 4 yr we trained some 1500 mostly BPI and base WX sealing and attic/wall. less than 5% are still doing BPI / field work or support. When I was going to air port the cab driver took the 6 week training and 6…"
Scott Wood replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"Yes, clearly as Sean outlined, actual cost for providing classes are high and usually not realized by most. He has listed out many of the costs involved. Not considered is the instructors time; traveling, getting the course materials ready, planning…"
Matthew Redmond replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"Hi Andrew, I understand your concern. At NYSWDA's training center our trainings on average are $200.00 per day so a 5 day course such as BPI Building Analyst is 1000.00 plus testing fees. We feel that this price is reasonable and affordable in…"
Sean Lintow Sr replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"First off, there is nothing wrong with profit & it is needed by everyone including your business to not only survive but to grow
With that - $7500 fees (going with BPI numbers stated earlier) / $8550
Where was this being held - lets be nice…"
Andrew Aliferis replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"I look at a 32 hour class of 10 individuals at $1600. Thats $16,000 for less than one week of instruction. A full class for several of our class trainings. More students, more money. Scott, how does that $16,000 get broken up? Once the training…"
Bob Blanchette replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"Another problem is many conventional schools/colleges get huge subsidies from the government. If they brought building science to the local community college class cost would drop dramatically. Certifications and other government regulations…"
Scott Wood replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"As an instructor for Building Science Thermography classes, I fully understand the cost involved in providing competent training and can attest that $1600 does not cover much if a minimal number of students attend. I've spent a decade…"
Andrew Aliferis commented on Diane Chojnowski's group Hall of Shame"Thanks Andy and Ted. My observations are that the way low income utility weatherization programs are run now the tax payers and paying utility customers are being fleeced and they are literally hurting the homes and families we are trying to help."
Andrew Aliferis commented on Diane Chojnowski's group Hall of Shame"This is what weatherization is looking like on jobs I audited for a local utility. This passes for a Pull down stairs cover. It's a single piece of thermax with huge gaps where it sits on the osb. The contractor got paid $350 to do this. The…"
Michael Dunseith replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"National cost per day for many types of trainings run between $250.00 to $300.00 per day. Here in NYC that $1,600.00 includes $750.00 in certification exam fees. Pretty good deal considering the cost of living here."
Eric Kjelshus replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Cost of training and certification"I was trained in late 70' "to save energy" when Jimmy Carter was pres. Then when the change at top happen all funds dried up, in just 6 weeks all ended. We trained some 4560 people in past 5 years and just 5% are in the…"
Andrew Aliferis replied to George Kopf's discussion ASHRAE 62.2.2010 and the $20 app"Thanks George. Do you know where I get Paul Raymer's spreadsheet from?"
John Nicholas replied to Andrew Aliferis's discussion Affordable, effective and easy to install HRV?"Depends on the home and what problems you are trying to solve.
Existing homes you can identify specific problems that have occurred over time and work on remediation.
New construction, you need to work toward the standard and apply your…"
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