I’m just back from the RESNET national conference in Orlando and I am very excited to report that RESNET certification is now available!

 

What’s needed?

• You must be a RESNET Building Performance Auditor or a Rater

• You must have 3 months experience using thermal imaging and a blower door

• You must have taken a training course that complies with the standards of the American Society for Nondestructive Testing (ASNT)

 

If you have these three credentials, you are ready to go under what is called Method 1 for certification! Many readers have them and we especially want you to know the “door” to this important certification is now wide open so head on through!

 

What’s next? You will need to prepare three reports that comply with the RESNET Interim Guidelines (see section 2.8 and  Appendix A)( http://www.resnet.us/standards/RESNET_IR_interim_guidelines.pdf), complete the application form, available at https://www1.resnet.us/pd/ir_certification.aspx and send it all in with a $600 fee.

 

The application and the reports will then be reviewed by a qualified reviewer—paid for from the application fee. Gaining your certificate will enable you to use thermal imaging to verify insulation grading (Grade II or III), as well as air leakage and thermal bypasses. This should open up important options for Raters who are unable to schedule being in the home when before it is closed up.

 

I hope many of you will jump on this opportunity. Those who have not yet had training can go ahead and take Level I or wait until the special 24-hour RESNET training is approved (probably 3-6 months) and qualify under Method 2. This also requires 3 months experience and 3 reports as well as completion of a 50-question exam, also in the final stages of being developed. Method 2 will be a good path for some but it is still months away from being a reality. Method 1 is ready to ”rock and roll” now!

 

A number of us have worked on this initiative for more than 3 years and we are thrilled to have it finally in place. If any of you have questions, please let me know and I’ll do my best to answer them.

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Just being back from the RESNET Conference in Florida myself, and being one of those who have been working on this for over 3 years, am proud of the fact that it was announced that the RESNET IR certification is now available. I am a little bit more hesitant to ask folks to rush forward and submit their paperwork WITH the expectation that their information will be reviewed quickly by a RESNET reviewer and then have themselves certified by this standard. While I also suggest HERS Raters be aware of this NEW standard and urge them to begin the compliance portion as John mentions above, like deciding if taking a Level 1 class now or waiting until the 24 hour class best fits your needs, feel there are still questions out there that need to be addressed. Those of you who sat in on our presentation of the IR Chapter 8 portion at RESNET, brought up many valid topics to consider.

 

Why am I asking for your patience when you submit your reports?

1- To my knowledge, there are currently no approved reviewers ready to review the reports.

2- There are more than likely going to be changes to the existing standard that may delay the final approval.

 

If you meet the current requirements and want to submit your reports now for review, please do. But also please be aware that some time may be needed before things are fully finctionable within this NEW INTERIUM Guideline.

 

There will be more to follow!

OK, let me get this straight.
I am  a RESNET certified HERS rater.  (about ~$1,200 for the course, plus expenses, plus a week of my time, plus about $5,000 for equipment)
I am a certified Level 1 Thermographer (about $2,500 for the course from SNELL,-your company, John,  plus expenses, plus a week of my time, plus about $10,000 for equipment)
And now I'm supposed to fork over another $600 to RESNET for another certification? 
FOR WHAT?
How is RESNET's certification different than the ASNT certification?    Why do I need it? 
Are there any other HERS Raters that wonder if RESNET is on their side?  I thought RESNET was my advocacy voice!
If it wasn't for my ENERGY STAR work, I would dump RESNET right now!
John,
I anve spoken to you in the past.  Please tell me how this helps me as a HERS rater and a Level 1 Theroographer.
Sorry for confusion on my last post.  The online editing system leaves a bit to be desired.  In your mind, delete the following..
John,
I anve spoken to you in the past.  Please tell me how this helps me as a HERS rater and a Level 1 Theroographer.

I may have this wrong, but it sounds to me like if you want to develop a HERS rating for a house AFTER the drywall is installed and the insulation is concealed, you will need this certification. If you can make a pre-drywall inspection, you don't need this.

 

It would not be easy to inspect a completed house and assign an insulation grade with any degree of confidence. If you're lucky enough to get a cold, overcast day, and the house you're inspecting has an operable heating system but no furniture or contents, you're in luck. Otherwise it's going to be a real chore, and you'll be moving furniture around. I suppose there will be a limited market for this type of IR inspection, but I doubt that builders are going to see this as the smart way to go, once they find that few people are certified to perform the inspection.

 

RESNET isn't wrong for establishing a cert for this. If it's going to be done, it should be done in accordance with a standard, and by people who know how to adhere to the standard. No one out there has to pay the $600 fee if they don't think it will benefit them. There are myriad certifications out there, with training schools springing up to train and test people. Caveat emptor, I guess.

"It would not be easy to inspect a completed house and assign an insulation grade with any degree of confidence. If you're lucky enough to get a cold, overcast day, and the house you're inspecting has an operable heating system but no furniture or contents, you're in luck."

I think the greatest value of this new protocol is being able to inspect the insulation of EXISTING homes. Please note that under the current Guideline you will not be allowed to Grade 1, only Grade 2 or 3. This was a constraint we felt we had to build into the Guideline because we include a wide breadth of imaging systems and thermographer qualifications. I think with better systems and more qualified people, one could easily discriminate to Grade 1 and hope we can accommodate that in the future with a revision.

As with every new tool and technology; there will be the initial resistance to change or adapt. I remember my early 'energy conservation' courses offered by the local engineering college during the Carter years. Wrap the exterior of the house in poly and insulate,  was the original concept. (what is mold ?) The first technical tool consisted of a contact thermister that compared out side wall temperature against an inside wall. Called 'the Energy Snoop'. I had all the latest tools and education.

How many of us would be where we are if we didn't continue the goal and accept all the challenges that RESNET and BPI plus the thousands of other dedicated leaders keep working on? The government wasn't there to help us. But; we kept on.

Who, today, would do an audit with out a blower door, smoke tester, training in building science and the assistance of the computer and internet? I gladly accept the challenge of offering Infrared to my work and want alll the training and certifications I can get to place myself at the top of the list of people in this field. I hope that the RESNET IR certification will now put me at the top of the list of RESNET raters and soon BPI auditors out there. If it cost another $600 to get to this goal; so what! I just will cut back on print advertising or some meals out for a few months. This technology and professional affiliation status was not available to us who struggled to this point.

If you are like me; you could have over $50,000 invested in this business with education, conferences, (over$ 20,000 in IR cameras), equipment, lost business while on training, continueing education, advertising, associations, etc. I believe to not get a RESNET IR specialist certification is crazy.

Do me a favor. If you operate with in 100 miles of my territory PLEASE DON'T get this certification. I would love to be the first and only Rater/Auditor to be able to advertise that I meet the IR regulations and give the BEST report out there.

allen@nyinfraredscan.com

www.nyenergyauditors.com

level III ASNT

 

Hi Allen,
I am not against change.  IR is a great tool.  I just don't see the need for multiple certs (that I have to pay for) that essentially say the same thing.
I see you are a Level III ASNT.  I think that credential should be good enough for anybody, including RESNET. 

I understand your reluctance to the 'RESNET Certification' for Infrared Henry. However; your IR level 1, 2 or 3 certification can come from different IR schools, have totally different  training and testing criteria.

There is no Industry accepted IR training certificate.

RESNET is now offering the first Energy certification in Infrared Inspection for the building industry.

Will the training center around industrial motor testing, flat roof IR, moisture scan?

No! This certificate will certify you, (and me), as a RESNET rater/auditor in IR.

As I stated: Don't raise your level of training and certification above all others.  I want to be the only RESNET certified Infrared rater in my city.

If you don't believe that certifications are valid: would you hire a licensed plumber or electrician over the local do it your selfer who just happened to work for a bigger company but has no certifications?

Plus: if the holder of the certification screws up~then there will be a suspension. Check the local disbarred attorney listings.

I am a level 3 because there is currently no level 4 designation in Infrared training!

Hi Allen,
I like your thinking "I am a level 3 because there is currently no level 4 designation".  You must be like me.  Some guys go to Disneyland or football games for vacation, I go to Thermography school.
Training can be fun.  It certainly is interesting.  I'm looking forward to Level II and III.
BTW, I was in your city a long time ago - very beautiful!  (It was in the fall)

HI Allen,

I would agree with your statement, "There is no Industry accepted IR training certificate.", but there is a problem with you stating that you are a Level III ASNT. I searched the ASNT site to determine if you are a "Certificate Holder" > http://www.asnt.org/certification/cert/intro.cfm  and you were not listed.

The defacto standard for infrared in the industry is ASNT SNT-TC-1A, and Level III Certificate Holders have attain the recognition directly from ASNT to call themselves ASNT Level III. Can you please explain?

 

Mark: My Faux pas. I am a Certified Level 3 Thermographer from Infraspection Institute and a member of ASNT.  You are correct that ASNT has its own level III certification; which is not my intention nor desire. ASNT level III certificate holders are highly technical and skilled in IR and have most likely devoted their careers to the advancement of Infrared.

One must be more careful in writing and not abbreviate.   I am a BPI envelope/analyst, attaining RESNER/Rater, have been in the construction business since 1972, (building new homes and remodeling), and performing energy conservation/consulting  since 1978.

I openly encourage everyone to attain the highest credentials because that is what will set you above the competition. Now that energy conservation technology has done a 360 degrees back to where it started in the oil embargo days of the 1970s; I hope that there is no stoping it.. My interest in IR goes back about 10 years with some early interest in the application for the fire service, NACHI application for home inspections and building science study. This is a great tool to replace the smoke puffer. Having a Level 1 RESNET certification shows you have building science and auditing application training.

I hope this clarifies my stance on advancing the level of training for IR.

Thanks Allen for the note.

I hope that more people have the unction like you to be highly trained for a passion they have in their work and livelihood!  As you pointed out, differentiating oneself from the competition is a must in the times we are will continue to be in.

Please continue to use the resources we have enable you further in your endeavors... ~Mark

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