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Comment by Sean Feurtado on September 6, 2012 at 11:31am
Comment by Sean Feurtado on September 6, 2012 at 10:05am I am going to run a separate simulation on a model I do have bill data for, the issue is that the take offs are block zones, I wanted to run a Room by room analysis so I used a floor floor plan I had. Here is a the report from open studio legacy. The main issue is with the reports is my site energy use and modeling internal plug loads in legacy, openstudio I think has more flexibility but i want to understand legacy first. Maybe I should add a discussion instead of comments...I might set one up once I have an analysis for block vs. Room by Room summaries. 
Sean, it might help to first model an existing building, with actual data to compare your model results against. At least one with a year's worth of gas and electricity usage. You mention 216345.05 of Site Energy Usage. Is this total BTU/year?
I simulated millions of square feet of commercail buildings with DOE2 back in the 90's, but that was many moons ago. As I recall, one of the limitations I found with DOE2 was that is didn't handle air flow between zones very well. For example, if there was an exhaust air flow in a zone, the thermal model assumed the outside air entered that zone to be either heated or cooled, rather than drawing its air from surrounding rooms. I also seem to recall I could not assign a schedule to how infiltration entered the spaces, or relate infiltration to outside wind speeds, and had to rely on the outside air schedules in the HVAC system. I found that accurately modeling a residential home can be more difficult than accurately modeling a large commercial building. For these reason, your model might be more accurate if you used blocks instead of trying to accurately draw each room.
That being said, I like how SketchUp can provide a visual image of the surfaces and zones that are being modeled.
Keep us up to date on your progress.
Comment by David Williams on September 4, 2012 at 6:36pm Can you describe your data acquisition method and sensor type/location. I just completed 24 months of hourly monitoring on a passive solar residential building and have a Very large excel file of data that has been evaluated in many different ways. This buildings' energy use was modeled using HOT 2000, prior to construction, in 1993. We have since modeled with Eplus and Greenbuild Studio, only to find that passive solar contributions are not recognized by Eplus & GbStudio.
Our wireless monitoring equipment measures hourly conditions for: all heating zone temps and humidy, gas to boiler & dhw, electric consumption , insolation, wind speed and direction. We have found that the actual building axillary energy requirements were not very well represented by conventional modeling tools, but found that HOT 2000 did a respectable job of identifying the 40% solar contribution that was disregarded by the other tools. Forty percent is a huge margin of error and I am wondering if anyone else has encountered the same issues that we have? This building is in CZ-6 with lots of sunny days>
Comment by Sean Feurtado on September 4, 2012 at 5:56pm Well I got through the modeling portion of learning, now troubleshooting the reports and analysis inputs from the DOE2.2 engine. I decided to to do a detailed room by room load analysis, instead of a block load, it ended up giving me a 216345.05 Site Energy Usage for 2355 sqft?? I am wondering if doing a block load analysis will give me a smaller load. I also will run the simulation against Energy Pro5 and AutoDesk Green Building Studio to compare results.
Sounds like a fair question to me. I'd like to know more about using Sketch-Up with EnergyPlus.
Comment by Sean Feurtado on September 4, 2012 at 11:54am Anyone else in this group use EnergyPlus Legacy plug-in for the Sketch up or any DOE-2.2 engines? Is this the best group to ask this question to?
Although this is not a residential building, this graph tracks the reduction in energy consumption that we have been able to achieve for the headquarters building that I work in. The energy savings were achieved by adjusting the settings on the building control system to reduce the minimum air flow settings on the variable air volume boxes and turn off the fans during unoccupied hours.
Documented 19% overall energy savings in nine residential homes that participated in our "Reduce Your Use" contest.
The winner reduced their January through March consumption by 35% by replacing their windows, sealing air leaks and turning off their hot tub.
Winners were determined imperically using the average monthly temperature approach described in this discussion forum. Baseline energy use was established based on a linear correlation of the home's normalized energy consumption for 2008-09 and 2009-10 winters. The actual energy consumed during the past three months was compared to two year's of average monthly energy use when the average temperature was below 45F.

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