ACI was an interesting conference with a lot of great vendors exhibiting, but one had me stumped. The company was called ShowerStart & they have a product where you turn on the water & as soon as it hits 95 its slows the flow to a trickle. Once you hop in, you pull the lanyard & essentially you have hot water & saved a bunch that would have gone down the drain.

Personally I like recirculating systems & consider water the next big thing to watch (which for some parts of the country it already is) but would love to hear your thoughts - is it something you would recommend / even use yourself or just a gimmick?

For links & more

Views: 690

Replies to This Discussion

Jim - The last iteration of the chilipepper is what you have heard about. It has been reengineered and is no longer loud and has longer lifespan. I dont know how you can think it is difficult to install. All you do is disconnect the two shut offs and put it between the two. The hardest thing is access to an electrical outlet which may have to be installed if not present, which is the same as the metlund product. Chilipepper was actually created by the guy who originally designed the Metlund system. It is actually on the order of three to four times more powerful which moves the hot water faster. Its also about 4 times less expensive as the metlund and can be self installed by anyone that has any home improvement know how. I'm not affiliated at all, I have just researched this topic extensively and have experience with both. I dont like paying 4 times the amount for a product that does the same thing. The metlund could very well have the durability edge but even if the warranty didnt cover your issue, you could buy 4 more of them!

Thanks for the re-iterations. Early in 2011 a friend, also an energy auditor, slipped a chilipepper into her plumbing. And OH what a relief!

Water bills dropped; kids love it. Even the noisy iterations had value -You KNOW when it's done and the water is hot and waiting because the racket stops! Kids LIKE that. Like when the doggie stops barking, we wag into the shower.

Happy campers are made of this.

One of the obvious problems with the device... is the use on installations in which the owner has previously installed thermostatic valves in the showers.  I use Grohe's thermal (Grotherm) controls.  We generally set the temperature at about 85F and that's where the water stays...  No value in the kit above.   For long runs using a chilipepper using either a dedicated return or the cold water return - works great.   I trigger my chilipepper when any of the bathroom light switches are turned on.  The recirc pump is located near the cluster of bathrooms.   Very little waste water and the shower temps are extremely stable.

Interesting side note... since I'm used to taking cooler showers - that seems to have caused some problems in a few of the German hotels that we've stayed at.  Most of the 3+ star hotels also use thermal controls for the showers.. and I'd set the show temp at about 25C-30C.  Two days in a row we had maintenance people coming up with immersion thermocouple probes and meters to verify the correct observation of the shower... because the cleaning staff noticed the temp was set at 25C instead of the higher temps that many of the Europeans like...  :-)

RSS

Photos

Loading…
  • Add Photos
  • View All

Latest Activity

Profile IconTirso De Ubago, Hamed Ghanbari, Bob Eldredge and 1 more joined Home Energy Pros
7 hours ago
Hamed Ghanbari replied to Brian's discussion Everything you need to become a energy auditor for sale in the group Energy Auditing Equipment for Sale, Trade or to Purchase
"Hello, I am interested to buy a Minneapolis Blower Door DG700. How much is your unit? Thanks. "
10 hours ago
Hamed Ghanbari joined allen p tanner's group
Thumbnail

Energy Auditing Equipment for Sale, Trade or to Purchase

Discuss the pros and cons of the equipment you are interested in prior to purchase. Post equipment…See More
11 hours ago
Colin Genge updated an event
Thumbnail

Measuring HVAC Performance webinar at Online

February 23, 2016 from 11am to 12pm
If you install, service or test HVAC systems you will want be there for this special webinar.…See More
14 hours ago
Colin Genge updated an event
Thumbnail

Testing for IECC Code Compliance for duct and house leakage webinar at Online

February 16, 2016 from 11am to 12pm
The International Energy Conservation Code (IECC) is in use or adopted in 47 states, the District…See More
14 hours ago
Jan Green posted a status
"I'm honored to be selected to speak at the 2016 RESNET Conference right here in sunny Scottsdale 2/29-3/2/16 with SRP & others!"
16 hours ago
Joe Konopacki posted an event

Duct & Envelope Tightness (DET) Verifier at Temperature Equipment Corporation

February 26, 2016 from 8:30am to 4:30pm
The Duct & Envelope Tightness Certification (DET) was designed by the Midwest Home Performance…See More
16 hours ago
Diane Jackson liked Don Hynek's discussion Superinsulation retrofit is Complete!
18 hours ago

© 2016   Created by Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service