UV light in Furnace?

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Permalink Reply by randy tolowski on March 15, 2012 at 3:10pm

Try American ultraviolet they were very helpfol at AHR in chicago www.auhvac.com call and ask questions I know nothing about it...yet

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Permalink Reply by Home Energy Magazine on March 15, 2012 at 3:38pm

Since I posted, Jim Gunshinan sent me a link from the EPA website which basically says that UVGI cleaners for home use haven't been proven very effective yet for a number of reasons.  They kill some organisms but not others. They recommend a HEPA filter in the furnace and says the following about mold removal--one of the benefits the serviceman claimed the lamp would have:

"No research or studies were found that show UV disinfection is effective in reducing dust mite and mold allergenicity or that UV radiation has the potential to remove gaseous pollutants. Because mold is allergenic, whether dead or alive, it can cause allergic reactions in sensitive populations. Therefore, UVGI cleaners might not be effective in reducing allergy and asthma symptoms. If mold is growing indoors, it should be removed." 

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Mellick on March 15, 2012 at 5:33pm

Make sure to buy a Catalyst Based uv and not just a uv light. The catalyst based will produce ions that spread through the entire house. The uv light will only treat the exposed surface and not the air moving across, having very little effect. Also check the humidity levels. At 50% mold and bacteria won't grow. I use a phi cell along with a hepa filter in my home.

http://www.greentechenv.com/hvac-phi-xxx-ga

http://residential.fantech.net/residential-products/indoor-air-qual...

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Permalink Reply by Glen Gallo on March 17, 2012 at 7:30am

Adding a HEPA filter to the unit might not be wise. You want the correct filter for the correct airflow. You can pickup a stand alone HEPA filter for about 100 bucks. I have always been a fan a specific use products for specific tasks. This will go along way toward cleaning the air in your space. It uses less energy than the furnace.

While not very green of me I would prefer to discard filters and install new ones.

I would question why dog hair is making it to the ducts. With a properly installed filter on the return dog hair should not make it into the system.  I have dogs cats and kids in a 1600 sq ft house with the doors an open door policy so the animals can come and go as they please. I have no hair in my ducts.

If you have a platform for your return I would suggest a new filter box grill and installing if the only filter is under the furnace itself. I would seal the return area with mastic and duct board if it is unconditioned space now 

This makes it far easier to replace and will keep debris out of that space

I am not a fan of ozone, lights, ions or other such products and would never recommend them unless I get new information

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Permalink Reply by Adam Flowers on March 19, 2012 at 12:21pm

I sincerely hope duct sealing is either being considered or has already happened as part of this process. Like Glen already mentioned, my primary concern would be how the mess got into your ductwork in the first place, and start there. It's worth asking why contractors that actively market duct cleaning and UV lights ignore that critical point. Source control, source control, source control.

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Permalink Reply by Home Energy Magazine on March 22, 2012 at 4:49pm

My ducts are relatively new and all wrapped/sealed.  The problem is that the cold air return is a floor grate in my 1926 bungalow and the hair just rolls in there like tumbleweed.  We are thinking about getting screening mesh and placing it on the underside of the grate to prevent any more hair deposits, and vacuuming out weekly.  I've decided against the UV light; am awaiting delivery of the new furnace filter.  

Thanks to everyone who weighed in on this!!

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Permalink Reply by Don Ames on March 19, 2012 at 7:57pm

The UV light in the recirculating pump in the small pond by the front door seems to really help keep the algae in check. I have installed several UV lights in the return air plenum of forced air heating systems. You're right, their about $400. Trouble is, you never really know if the light is helping the asthma patient. Can not whip out a testing tool and take a reading. Of the several I've installed, no one has gotten back to me and said,"Wow, I sure feel better." I don't install them anymore, I just increase the quality of the air filter and call it good.

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Permalink Reply by Tal segal on October 22, 2012 at 10:50am

Uv light is very very helpful!!, i installed it in my duct last year and since then my allergies have gone away.

I bought it directly from the manufactor wholesale www.aircareuv.com  for $115 which was is a huge savings!! My A/C tech tried to sell me one for $1200, unbelievable!

 

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Navin on October 24, 2012 at 6:47am

The screen over the grate seems to be a good idea as a contribution to fixing the problem. 

But no one wrote of ventilation. You should make sure that the source of any mold is eliminated, and the cause is abated. 

Fresh air into the home properly controlled will be a major contribution to improving indoor air quality. 

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Permalink Reply by Curt Kinder on October 24, 2012 at 6:34pm

IMO UV lights are oversold at ridiculous markups and under perform relative to expectations.

I refuse to install them unless a client insists, supported by written directive from an allergist or MD, that they truly need one.

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Permalink Reply by Tal segal on October 24, 2012 at 6:47pm

Catalyst based uv light with TIO2 are working great!,
I payed $115 for the unit, very good price. And they have great customer service.

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Permalink Reply by Robert H on January 31, 2013 at 10:42am

That sounds like a ozone generator.  I always advise against introducing ozone in to an occupied building.  Ozone is a very caustic gas, that is why it can clean surfaces. Putting this system in a small room could elevate ozone to very high levels.  

UV light by itself does not produce ozone or other byproducts. Its more like giving a deadly sunburn to the virus of bacteria.  

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