Hi out there. I have been running into customers that want to upgrade their wall insulation, but have batts in the walls. In checking with local insulation companies, one says he has foam injection system that works but is $2.00 a sq. ft., the other says there is nouthing he knows of that works. Let me know whats going on out there, so I can pass good information on to my customers.

Have a Great Day!!!!!!!

Views: 106

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

There are foam companies that will add foam to existing batt insulation, but I'm a skeptic and would want some guarantees and lots of IR pictures.  Maybe even a few addresses where this has been done before so I can look with my own camera.

Improving 3.5 inch walls is difficult.  If the foam can be done and done right, maybe, but at $2 a sq ft a 1,500 sq ft ranch would be around $2,500, I would run some numbers to see if that works.

In the long run, I always look inside and outside to see if other work is in the near future.  If new siding will be needed soon, then adding rigid foam under the siding might combine to be a lot less expensive.  If inside renovations are planned, padding out a wall, electric, windows, yada, yada, may also be an option.

One of the problems with adding foam to an already insulated wall is that the increase is not all that much and the existing fiberglass actually gets in the way reducing the quality of the new install.  So you end up going from an 11 or 13 cavity to a 15 or 18 cavity.  It would be better if the fg wasn't already there.  Those numbers came from my back pocket area so take your own guess, but they illustrate that the improvement isn't all that great.  Adding a couple of inches of rigid over the outside with new siding also covers from foundation to top plate along with all of the thermal bridging.  Much more impressive results.

Bud

Thanks, kind of what i was thinking. Lets see what others think.

I'm going to back Bud on this one. Spraying in foam and hoping it will effectively fill in around the FG is essentially hopes and dreams kind of thinking.

In a case such as yours, the best bet is to tighten up where you can, add insulation to places like the rim\band joists (if exposed), and begin to plan for a more comprehensive project in the future (where wall insulation is combined with interior renovation and\or siding replacement). 

In my neck of the woods, most houses are faced with a brick veneer (with no insulation in the walls), so the only real way to approach this is to talk to them about making a mess in their houses and them becoming okay with this over time. By "this" I mean the mess that typically accomodates drilling into the sheetrock\plaster, installing cellulose or icynene, and then patching up the holes used to install the insulation. 

Patrick

RSS

Home Energy Pros

Home Energy Pros was founded by the developers of Home Energy Saver Pro (sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy,) and brought to you in partnership with Home Energy magazine.

Latest Activity

Profile IconBergen Heat, Travis Thom and Amita Singh joined Home Energy Pros
2 hours ago
Tom White's video was featured

U.S. Department of Education Webinar for HVACR Educators

Rebroadcast from On April 30, 2013 Sharon Miller and Robin Utz of the U.S. Department of Education conducted a one hour webinar for HVACR educators to provide them firsthand information from Washington. Highlights include: * A blueprint to revise…
3 hours ago
Tom White posted a video

U.S. Department of Education Addresses HVACR Educators 4-30-2013

Rebroadcast from On April 30, 2013 Sharon Miller and Robin Utz of the U.S. Department of Education conducted a one hour webinar for HVACR educators to provid...
3 hours ago
Nate Adams's discussion was featured
14 hours ago
Bud Poll replied to Bud Poll's discussion CO poisoning in Yarmouth Maine
"Hi Chad, I sure would like to hear the follow-up on what caused the CO issue down there.  As…"
18 hours ago
Chad Mcaulife replied to Bud Poll's discussion CO poisoning in Yarmouth Maine
"I got a call yesterday from a homeowner who had a direct vent furnace installed a year ago and she…"
18 hours ago
Windzer Pierre-Louis replied to Matthew P's discussion Needed: Gas Detector and CO Detector. What do you recommend?
"Matt, I am new to the industry, less than 6 months. I love the mission of the industry; to bring…"
18 hours ago
Todd Collins replied to Nate Adams's discussion One Knob and the Pain That Inspired It
"Home performance is about comfort and energy savings.  We are working on a document about…"
19 hours ago

© 2015   Created by Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service