Hi out there. I have been running into customers that want to upgrade their wall insulation, but have batts in the walls. In checking with local insulation companies, one says he has foam injection system that works but is $2.00 a sq. ft., the other says there is nouthing he knows of that works. Let me know whats going on out there, so I can pass good information on to my customers.

Have a Great Day!!!!!!!

Views: 117

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

There are foam companies that will add foam to existing batt insulation, but I'm a skeptic and would want some guarantees and lots of IR pictures.  Maybe even a few addresses where this has been done before so I can look with my own camera.

Improving 3.5 inch walls is difficult.  If the foam can be done and done right, maybe, but at $2 a sq ft a 1,500 sq ft ranch would be around $2,500, I would run some numbers to see if that works.

In the long run, I always look inside and outside to see if other work is in the near future.  If new siding will be needed soon, then adding rigid foam under the siding might combine to be a lot less expensive.  If inside renovations are planned, padding out a wall, electric, windows, yada, yada, may also be an option.

One of the problems with adding foam to an already insulated wall is that the increase is not all that much and the existing fiberglass actually gets in the way reducing the quality of the new install.  So you end up going from an 11 or 13 cavity to a 15 or 18 cavity.  It would be better if the fg wasn't already there.  Those numbers came from my back pocket area so take your own guess, but they illustrate that the improvement isn't all that great.  Adding a couple of inches of rigid over the outside with new siding also covers from foundation to top plate along with all of the thermal bridging.  Much more impressive results.

Bud

Thanks, kind of what i was thinking. Lets see what others think.

I'm going to back Bud on this one. Spraying in foam and hoping it will effectively fill in around the FG is essentially hopes and dreams kind of thinking.

In a case such as yours, the best bet is to tighten up where you can, add insulation to places like the rim\band joists (if exposed), and begin to plan for a more comprehensive project in the future (where wall insulation is combined with interior renovation and\or siding replacement). 

In my neck of the woods, most houses are faced with a brick veneer (with no insulation in the walls), so the only real way to approach this is to talk to them about making a mess in their houses and them becoming okay with this over time. By "this" I mean the mess that typically accomodates drilling into the sheetrock\plaster, installing cellulose or icynene, and then patching up the holes used to install the insulation. 

Patrick

RSS

Home Energy Pros

Home Energy Pros was founded by the developers of Home Energy Saver Pro (sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy,) and brought to you in partnership with Home Energy magazine.  Home Energy Pros is sponsored by the Better Buildings Residential Network.

Latest Activity

Eric Kjelshus replied to Damien Greenfield's discussion Is there is cost saving for you in having a tankless water heater?
"Biggest is to keep the CO  or other gas down in building  "
39 minutes ago
Bob Blanchette replied to Damien Greenfield's discussion Is there is cost saving for you in having a tankless water heater?
"Look at your SUMMER gas bill where water heating accounts for most of your gas use. 10-15 therms…"
45 minutes ago
Bob Blanchette replied to Damien Greenfield's discussion Is there is cost saving for you in having a tankless water heater?
"The marathon fails miserably in operating costs when compared to an ordinary gas water heater.. NG…"
52 minutes ago
Richard C. MacCrea replied to Damien Greenfield's discussion Is there is cost saving for you in having a tankless water heater?
"Most of the posts here are far too narrow in scope. To make the best decision you need to…"
16 hours ago
Tom Mallard replied to Damien Greenfield's discussion Is there is cost saving for you in having a tankless water heater?
"Thx, Jose, add in u"
17 hours ago
tedkidd replied to Damien Greenfield's discussion Is there is cost saving for you in having a tankless water heater?
"Thankless water heaters are a GREAT deal.... For the installers. They are usually very…"
18 hours ago
Jose Carreno replied to Damien Greenfield's discussion Is there is cost saving for you in having a tankless water heater?
"I have been working with RUUD/RHEEM tank less water heaters (0.94 energy factor) with excellent…"
21 hours ago
Profile IconColleen Neel, Sarah Mostafa, Michael Kelemen and 4 more joined Home Energy Pros
22 hours ago

© 2015   Created by Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service