Looking for some help troubleshooting this furnace blower issue!
Carrier Model 58CTX070
Furnace is not delivering much air to supply grills and is shutting itself off every 10 minutes.
Why is it not moving enough air
Here are the results of my initial tests:
What's the problem?
Thanks for any help!
I'm thinking your static reading may be off, are you testing below or above the A-coil? Pressure drop across the coil alone should be more than .1". What is the amp draw on the motor? Does the motor seem to be "running hard", slow or OK? Do you have access to verify a clean A-coil?
No AC coil on this unit. Just a gas burner and heat exchanger.
Supply SP is 0.035 wc.
Return SP is 0.070 wc.
Amp draw on the motor:
@ black wire: 7.2 and falling. Went down to 5.35 amps while I was watching.
@ yellow wire: 4.07
@ blue wire: 3.42
@ red wire: 2.76
Motor seems to be running slow, smooth & quiet.
I just tested the run capacitor. Its only showing 0.5 MFD. See photo. Also, put an digital ohm meter on the capacitor. It did not rise up to a number like 200 and then fall back to OL. It just stayed at a very low number.
I'd like to test the motor windings... Haven't figured out the procedure just yet. Must be a way to determine if they are burned or partially shorted.
I've installed a few systems, but I'm not an HVAC tech. I am curious and wanting to learn more about all this, so I'm motivated to figure it out. Researching motor winding test protocols now.
Looks like you found your problem, shorted capacitor.
I've heard that the capacitor and motor can go out at the same time.
Eg: a bad motor can damage the capacitor and a bad capacitor can damage the motor.
It's possible but unlikely for a motor to damage the capacitor. A bad cap can burn up a motor if not promptly replaced. Capacitors are under $15, buy one and put it in.
replace the motor from a PSC with an after market ECM evergreen or like. You may have to change braket or holder for the motor as the ECM take more tork and brake welds. eff changes from 25-35% to 60-75%. If the SP is to high (.91" WC or higher) the ECM just over heats and burns the back up - heat kills-. If you see the oil spots on bottom and the bearing are gone it likely over heated. there is saw dust and some fiber around the brass oil bearing when the oil is gone 3-6 mo later so is the motor. Eric Kjelshus HVAC www.ericsenergy.com
Payback isn't there unless customer runs fan 24/7, has high utility rates or already has a bad PSC motor.
Just Ohm tested all the motor leads. They all look good. Problem seems to be limited to the capacitor only.
Ordered a 7.5 uf, 370A capacitor.
Will post results when I get it installed.
I get 440 volt Capacitor, now with lack of size lack of oil in new caps the leads over heat and burn out. new caps are just 1/5 the size of 25 yr ago.
If the end play is to much the OHM change when moving the shaft and still burn out . with power off Take your fingers and see how much play is on shaft more than 3/8" then plan on replacement. www.ericsenergy.com
In a 240v circuit I 100% agree on the 440v caps. On a 120v circuit a 370v is plenty.
Turns out it was the capacitor.
Installed a new one and all systems are back on track.
Total static pressure is up to 0.46 wc now.
Temp rise is down to 51°F.
High limit switch is no longer tripping.
Blower motor is running smooth and strong.
Figured that would fix it :)